Herodotus and sima qian

With the help of his politically connected father-in-law, he steadily rose through the official ranks, becoming a senator and consul while also gaining fame as an orator and prosecutor. Some of these differences concern form and style: These pursuits, however, would all end up taking a backseat to writing.

But what is the significance of this for the writers?

Likewise, Sima Qian was expected to commit suicide when he was imprisoned for subordination. He does not interrogate the political functions of their histories or explore the degrees to which ideas of ancient nationalism shaped their content and acceptance. By contrast, Qian was a privileged son from Xiayang, a village near modern Hancheng in the Shaanxi province of China.

In The Records, Chinese characters like Liu Hui, Fan Yuqi, and Pang Juan commit suicide when they are either Herodotus and sima qian or have the opportunity to obtain honor through suicide.

In this case, fourteen excerpts have been translated from classical Greek and Chinese by Martin and his wife, Ivy Sui-yuen Sun. As such, the truths of the present can never be guaranteed for the readers of History. He then compares the two historians. In 98, he authored his first known works—a biography of his father-in-law and an ethnographic study of the Germanic tribes—and followed that up with a book on oratory.

Most importantly, Herodotus and Qian believed in a greater, common assumption that fueled their historical endeavors. Herodotus wrote this narrative after his family was exiled to mainland Greece. Yet their earliest historians were all essentially amateurs, either politicians or military officials who wrote in their spare time.

Herodotus wrote a narrative largely organized around one momentous event in the shared history of Greece and Persia. He wrote his scroll Histories about the rise of the Persian Empire in the region of modern Iran, and the Greco-Persian Wars that occurred between an alliance of Greek city-states and the Archaemenid dynasty.

Given a choice of punishment, the historian purportedly defied custom by selecting castration over execution, shaming himself and his family so that he could continue his work.

History is the noble purpose of understanding the past in order to inform the present, but the process of making history is inevitably predicated upon an imperfect relationship between an objective approach and a subjective interpretation.

Hence, the oracles did not compel Croeses to destroy his own army. Unfortunately, Martin does not speculate about the meaning of these inclusions to their audiences; he only suggests their presence.

Book Review of Thomas R. The monumental project almost came undone in 99 B. For these reasons, The Records is also three times longer than the Histories, and it tends to be more autocentric, that is, written within, for, and about a single polity.

Martin, Herodotus and Sima Qian: The former event seems to be a critique of arbitrary power, while the latter seems to be a message about the wisdom of firm leadership. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. In Qian he finds the archetype of a loyal yet martyred scholar; in Herodotus he finds the unassuming curiosity of a traveling storyteller.

Second, both authors meet the historian J. We strive for accuracy and fairness. Tacitus then turned to history, finishing one provocative account of the Flavian dynasty and another of the Julio-Claudian dynasty that picked up right where Livy had left off.

Ban Zhao Historian Ban Zhao. Public Domain Though rare, female historians also populated the ancient world. The books pair background information, like short biographical or contextual essays written by knowledgeable scholars, with annotated excerpts from primary-source documents.

Livy A sculpted bust of the Roman historian Livy. He succinctly discusses antecedents, origin, form, content, and the geographical context of each larger work. He suffered castration and disgrace as a result of his dedication to the work.

Even in moments where events seem governed by divine vengeance or Fortune, which Herdrotus calls tsis or nemesis, there is an echo of human agency.

While there reactions are different—Herodotus avoids the controversy and Qian imposes his own version—their approach is similar in that they both acknowledge the presence of an audience with something at stake in their work.

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He took over writing The Records from his dying father as a private project of filial honor. His work is more quantifiable in its presentation and overlapping in its content, which stems back to the distant age of the legendary Yellow Emperor.Herodotus and Sima Qian: History and the Anthropological Turn in Ancient Greece and Han China*.

Herodotus and Sima Qian: The First Great Historians of Greece and China: A Brief History with Documents / Edition 1 In this accessible volume, Thomas R.

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Martin compares the writings of Herodotus in ancient Greece with those of Sima Qian in ancient China to Price: $ Herodotus and Sima Qian combined an incipient cultural relativism with notions of common humanity, resulting in an anthropological turn, the representation of the cultures of “others” as autonomous systems that must be judged on their own terms.

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